Have a 59 dominator 99 restored in mid 90s. It gets little use especially at moment due to age and cold but given it stands idle even with engine at TDC it inevitably wet sumps. Before starting drain about pint and half out of sump and as yesterday starts easily after a couple of kicks (battery regularly on charge). There is a slight oil leak from towards the rear of the primary chain case - broadly beneath the drive sprocket - (bear in mid bike is only wheeled out of garage and then stands idling before switch off and back in garage) I have had bike on a motorcycle table and can see some oil on the frame but looking up no oil around the drive sprocket running down or much if any on the PCC seal. The oil drops after the bike has run for a couple of minutes. While I recognise it could be the primary chain case seal an earlier post I discovered on the site said that if the bike wet sumps it could be something to do with the clutch but gave no details. I am reluctant to remove PCC in case I distort it when refitting but wonder if someone could explain what the clutch issue is. I am also assuming the breather pipe terminates further back although its hidden behind the various frame fittings. Hopefully someone can advise as the bike is a dream to ride and own but as you would assume from this post I am not as experienced in classic bike maintenance as many on the site. Thanks for any help. Hugh
The engine breather commonly…
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Agreed. Chains in a case, if…
Agreed. Chains in a case, if boiled in Putoline don't need oil at all. The clutch seems to work happily enough without oil, too. I extended the breather pipe to the bottom of the back mudguard, and respectfully suggest that all Dommi Nortons will wet-sump so fit a valve with incorporated magneto earthing cut-out switch, which solves the problem. No more mess on the floor.
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i now have 3 tin chaincases…
i now have 3 tin chaincases to worry about. Interestingly they are all in a decent shape and none leak oil if left stationary . The drips only appear during or just after a run.This says that the problem is not really the rubber seal. More likely the gearbox shaft area or cable exit.
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Oil Drips
One of the weaknesses of the Dominator is the crankshaft oil seal. Lots of owners just assume that it will be up to doing a good job year after year. The reality being that, just like tyres, these seals deteriorate with age and usage. When they are worn, dodgy oil seals will allow oil from the crankcase to enter the primary chaincases. Especially if the engine is started after a long lay-off and has wet-sumped.......even a small amount. The air inside the chaincases then becomes pressurised and pushes the excess oil (vapour) towards any gaps. These generally being the holes for wiring leads, the gearbox mainshaft and the footrest tube. This is asssuming that the main chaincase seal is not already adding to the misery.
One last important point........make sure that any replacement crankshaft seals have been purchased from a reputable dealer. There are some seals, available on the market place, which are not up to the purpose and quickly deterorate once bathed in hot engine oil. This also applies to the timing cover seal.
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The engine breather commonly spews oil out in the same area ,usually when the pistons are not fully run in , or after starting . The sliding seal over the gearbox shaft wears and is often damaged . The alternator cable grommet is another weak point.The case is often overfilled which makes all the problem areas much worse . The correct level is somewhat BELOW the "Level plug ) hole . If all is correct I find I dont need to top up at all as oil still finds its way into the case (and out!) from the Engine mainshaft seal. Usually I need to put the bike on its side stand to drain a bit out to keep the level right. Chains need very little oil, as long as they are not dry they survive well.