After ten years of standing in the back of my shed I decided to turn over my 59 Jubilee only to find that the kick start would not turn over the engine. The kick start just dropped to the bottom without engaging the engine, the return spring did bring it back to the top. I do remember starting the bike about ten years ago and the engine did turn over and start. Could this be anything to do with something sticking such as the clutch.
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John
Could be just the pawl in…
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Thanks Les Tried flicking…
Thanks Les
Tried flicking the kick start, did not work. Will try other ideas tomorrow. Did take off the gearbox front cover, visible parts look OK, no rust. I do remember changing all the oils before I started it ten years ago.
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John.
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What is the kick starter p…
What is the kick starter pawl, would this also be called the kick starter ratchet spring.
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The pawl is part of the ra…
The pawl is part of the ratchet, it's the bit that sticks out to engage the mechanism as you kick.
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Dan I,m looking at the exp…
Dan
I,m looking at the exploded pic of the gearbox. Cannot see anything called the pawl. Would this be plate number B55 the kick starter shaft assembly or B58 the kick starter ratchet. If its none of these would you have the plate number.
John
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The above message fell off…
The above message fell off the front page. Would anyone else know what the plate number is.
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John
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Yes it is John.....The kic…
Yes it is John.....The kickstart ratchet B58 drives the 1st gear layshaft cog which has the built in kickstart wheel or teeth Part: B48. The mechanism is driven in sideways to mesh.....not like the heavyweight boxes where there is a pawl so I might have confused you earlier....my mistake....one lives and learns....
Les
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Me too, just made an assum…
Me too, just made an assumption! Sorry!
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Previously john_dunn1 wrot…
Previously john_dunn1 wrote:
Dan
I,m looking at the exploded pic of the gearbox. Cannot see anything called the pawl. Would this be plate number B55 the kick starter shaft assembly or B58 the kick starter ratchet. If its none of these would you have the plate number.
John
You will have to dismantle and fondle every little piece. Don't expect a full explanation in your head before you start. Mechanics don't work that way. It will become totally clear when you have the oily pieces in your hands and only then.
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oily pieces
Love your comment Jonathan! Just watch out for the aliens from another dimension- you know, the ones that materialise behind your back, then make off with the circlips, grub screws and whatnot. There must me an entire planet out there made solely of these....
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Could be just the pawl in the kick-start ratchet has jammed or rusted in so it doesn't locate in the 1st gear internal teeth
.....I would try pulling the kickstart right down and let it flick back....do this several times and eventually the shock might free up the pawl. Once free it should be OK....but no promises it will come out of hibernation.
To check if the clutch has somehow stuck in the disengaged position (extremely unlikely) put the bike in gear and push it to see if the engine is turned over. The test will be self evident if the clutch is OK.
If this does turn the engine over you might be successful in bump starting it.
If no luck with my first suggestion:
If you do get it started, put the bike on the stand with the engine running and pull down the kickstart and also let it flick back...eventually you should hear the rapid clicking of the pawl if it manages to come out of the stuck in position.
Les
Les