Hello
I would like to find an AGM, 6 volt battery for my 1946 Model 18. Can anyone recommend a modern battery replacement that fits the original battery box?
Many thanks for any help and advice.
Andy
I'm happy...
... witha 4AH alram type battery on my ES2. I'd probably not use it if I was dependent on coil ignition but with a magneto seems fine to me. I don't ride at night though.....
https://www.toolstation.com/sealed-lead-acid-battery/p94217
It easily fits in a replica case with plenty of padding. I know Al Os doesn't like them but they work for me. Standard dynamo setup with RB107 regulator.
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I'm using a pair of 6v AGM…
I'm using a pair of 6v AGM batteries wired in parallel in the 16H because when I fitted them I hadn't decided if I was going to change to 12v. Another bike has 6v Cyclone cell battery which happily survived a nearly 8 year layup without being charged.
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Thank you for the advice!
These are great leads, many thanks.
The original, "T" shaped, Lucas battery box is on the small size and I am starting to think that either a larger replacement, or removing it and just mounting a battery to the battery box frame, might open up some more battery choices. Be nice to try and keep everything looking original though.
Is a battery rated at 4 Ah able to take the charging rate from the standard dynamo? I have replaced the voltage regulator with a new solid state regulator, if that makes a difference.
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As others have said a Cyclon…
As others have said a Cyclon battery is a good bet,, they hold the charge from one season to the next and last very well. I have one on the Rudge, its never needed any attention .Something to do with the unusual construction.
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You ask...
.." Is a battery rated at 4 Ah able to take the charging rate from the standard dynamo? I have replaced the voltage regulator with a new solid state regulator, if that makes a difference. "
In my experience yes although I have the short 45 watt dynamo rather than the long 60 watt version.
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I went lead-acid
I run a lead-acid Yuasa 6N6 battery,= (intended for a Honda step-thru or similar), inside a replica rubber case. It's 6V, 6 amp hour, and holds enough reserve to run the lights for an hour or so, should you suffer a dynamo failure...(just a dirty commutator, in my case). The Yuasa works OK, lasts, and is not expensive.
I previously had a pair of Cyclons, with maybe 8 amp hours' capacity. The intention was that they could be wired in parallel for 6V, or in series for 12V if I ever got round to converting my bike. During the year and a half between buying the batteries and getting the bike going, the Cyclons got discharged and were never happy after that. So, back to Yuasa.
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I use 2x Banner 6v
/4.5 amp hr sealed/non spill lead acid batteries. Coincidently, I am just putting 2 onto my 1949 ES2. I fasten the two together with cut down inner tube and place in a replica T shaped battery box, bought from Armours from memory...pack out for a comfortable fit. The batteries are connected together to give 6v. Keep a ventilation space/tube etc
I have used the same on my 1937 model 50 for 5 or 6 years. Despite this bike not being regularly used,I have only had to charge the batteries once in that time, and that was when I deliberately ran them down to test how long I could keep a Paul Goff LED headlamp going when wired direct to the said batteries. (I seem to recall that I ran a headlight this way on my unlit 1935 Inter, battery in my tank bag) to a NOC rally, probably Holland. The headlamp lasted at least 5 hours, plus.
EAW of Woking sell them, about a tenner per battery. EAW are online and also at Kempton and Ardingly autojumbles. AEW also list the T shaped case. LED's have come a long way, you get what you pay for. I can and do ride at night with Paul Goff headlight bulbs.
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For my last 2 battery replacements I have used Westco ES13-6. These are AGM with a good AmpHour rating and are a snug fit inside the larger of the 2 replica rubber battery cases available from Lucas. Connection is by vertical spade terminals, 2 sizes 6.25mm (+) and 5mm (-). To run the cables under the cover the connections have to be turned 90 degrees. I achieved this by modifying piggyback crimp terminals. Westco batteries are available from Tayna (and others).