Hello all, can you help, my 1970 roadster has a misfire and on investigation I found it was overcharging[17/18v plus] 12.5v at rest so checked [pod] reg/rec[single phaze] all ok. Also the ammeter is showing -2/3 amps when running should I change reg/rec or more likely wiring problem?
many thanks Jake
misfire/overcharging
many thanks chaps,checked all wires/terminals seem ok carbs are new. I'll try new reg/rec as worth a try.
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Before you do that
Are you 100% sure that all the drillings in your new carbs are perfectly clear of swarf? You wouldn't be the first to find out that they weren't. Can your fuel tap flow enough fuel? (eg. is the filter on the tap blocked)
What ignition system are you running? Boyer, for example are renowned for breaking the wires INSIDE the insulation near to the engine/inside the points cover/at the back plate, i.e. from outside it all looks good, but it isn't in reality. Sometimes they touch well enough to run well, but at high revs the contact vibrates apart and you get a misfire. Running a new wire from backplate to control box to check that out is a lot cheaper than a new regulator!
Have you done what Al suggests? i.e. disconnect the alternator and reg/rec from the circuit (total loss battery) and checked whether it run ok or not? If your misfire is still there, it isn't the regulator.
Also, how old are the coils? HT leads? Plug Caps? Plugs?
If your lights are all still working, you are not getting high voltages as the bulbs won't take it, so it is probable that your reg/rec is ok
Just trying to save you the expense of a new regulator when what you have is perfectly OK
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Isn't it funny...
Isn't it funny, people have a problem, you give them advises and they ignore 90% of it especialy the easy to do bits. And then wander off to spend money!
You are right George, 18V would have killed the battery and blown the bulbs. By the way you do not have to disconnect Alternator and reg/rect. You just pull out one wire, the BLACK from the reg/rect (or one alt. wire).
And as we keep reminding ourselves, a missfire that is electrical will be petrol and lack of petrol is a bad connection!!
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misfire/overcharging
cheers George, yes ran new wire from pick up to boyer box as worn [almost]through,new plugs caps and leads fitted,lights not turned on as voltage problems checked with two diffrent testers[cheap or otherwise]as for carb problem, tickover is constant and on road plug chop proved perfect colour
Mr Osborn I DID not ignore your advice as I said, if you can read I checked ALL WIRES and CONNECTIONS AND CARBS ARE NEW AND CHECKED OUT.As for my CHEAP meters? I have two and both gave same readings I only asked for advice as I have run out of options and and did not expect a reply which tried to belittle me. I will not be asking anything again if this is your attitiude.
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Modern digital meters have…
Modern digital meters have trouble reading voltages on running old bikes due to interference from the ignition. An old analogue meter does not have the issue.
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IF switching on the lights instantly cures the misfire, if running the bike on battery only without any charging (disconnect reg/rect) cures the misfire then over volts/charging is the cause. You say you have checked the reg/rect yet you say you have 18V (primary cause reg/rect failure) ??
BUT real cause of apparent 18V liable to be cheap digital meter picking up ignition interference.
Real cause of misfire liable to be loose wire or worn carbs.