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Jubilee Front Hub Trims

Submitted by bruce_firth-clark on Fri, 01/03/2019
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Has anyone found any front wheel hub chrome trims anywhere? Don’t want to start wheel rebuild until I can find a pair - have got them for rear (NOC shop) but fronts seem to be non-existent

Submitted by dan_field on Sat, 02/03/2019

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I’ve just looked at mine again , I think they are painted over the chrome, the brake plates were always painted I think.

 

Submitted by bruce_firth-clark on Sun, 03/03/2019

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I do wonder it there was an “engineering” reason for these trims - seems strange only fitted to Jubilee and at a time when AMC/Norton were struggling for money, why fit an additional cost part and Chrome it - but don’t embellish anything extra anywhere else on the bike.  Were there problems with spoke holes “cracking” by any chance? If that’s the case then I definitely need a pair for the front hub!

Submitted by dennis_thompson on Sun, 03/03/2019

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I have one trim that I think is from a front wheel. The chrome isn't great but you can have it for the cost of postage.

I see NOC shop has one rear wheel trim in stock - is there a difference? If not you might make up a pair using that.

Dennis

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Thanks a lot Dennis - unfortunately that looks like a rear hub one, my front hub is about 3/8” bigger than the rear & I’ve got 2 new ones for the rear from the NOC shop anyway. 

Always assuming I’ve now got the right front hub that is - although, it’s been confirmed (on here in an earlier post) that the front brake is 6” and that’s what I’ve now got and looks like an original Jubilee hub.

Maybe there’s someone who can measure their front hub rims to confirm the actual size - unless you can do it from yours (please)?

Bruce, you are correct. The hub rim I have is from a rear wheel - sorry. The front hub rim is 7.5 inches in diameter on my machine with (about) a 7 inch rim on the rear hub; it is difficult to be accurate about the rear wheel measurement with the rear shock and speedo drive in the way.  The rim trim I have spare for the rear wheel is 7 inches in diameter. I hope that helps.

Dennis

Submitted by dennis_thompson on Thu, 07/03/2019

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Regarding the front brake, perhaps the brake drum is 6 inches in diameter, hence "6 inch brakes", inside a hub rim of 7.5 inches in diameter?

Dennis

Submitted by bruce_firth-clark on Thu, 07/03/2019

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Thanks Dennis - that replicates what I have so I now know I’ve got the “right” front hub.  Just need to find a pair of trims now then!

Submitted by bruce_firth-clark on Mon, 28/10/2019

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Re-opened thread again. After lots of searching (internet, magazines, bike jumbles, wants ads) still not found any hub trims!  Rears seem to be ok to get but not the front and they’re not as easy to have made up as first appeared!

Before I go to the complications of getting them made, does anyone one have a pair they’re prepared to sell on to me (even if it’s a complete wheel!) please?

Thanks - Bruce

Submitted by dan_field on Mon, 28/10/2019

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I’ll have a look but don’t think I have, I did wonder if the FB cruiser had them, but looking at google it looks like they didn’t. Jubilee front wheels do come up for sale on eBay from time to time. 

Dan 

Thanks Dan, it would help enormously if you had some!  I haven’t seen a front Jubilee wheel on eBay that includes the “trims” - rears are quite common.  I have seen pictures of the “Cruiser” with them as well as James Captain but don’t think these were a standard fit but haven’t been able to confirm that - they don’t show up on EBay either - I look/search almost daily!!

bruce

Submitted by bruce_firth-clark on Thu, 07/11/2019

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Just an update - decided to have them made up locally in stainless by laser cutting, I’ll have to “form” them (that’ll be interesting!) though.  Luckily I’ve got a spare front hub to destroy in the process (just kidding - hopefully!).

Bruce.

Sent an email through the website yesterday. Could be of some interest. Did you get it? You won't if your email contact held by club is out of date.

An alternative course of action perhaps? Contact me through the website.

Peter

Submitted by bruce_firth-clark on Fri, 08/11/2019

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Hi Peter - thanks, but nothing from the club (email address hasn’t changed for 15 years+).  I’ll await and see if anything by Monday (tied up with Remembrance Parades for next 3 days). Unless you want to put details on here?

Bruce

Hi Bruce,

Have you tried contacting me through the website.? It's worked for me before.

Don't think it's a good idea to put my email and phone number on this public forum.

I'll try to contact you again now.

Peter

Submitted by andy_sochanik on Sun, 10/11/2019

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Hi All - latecomer to the ball...

No-one has mentioned that these trims were only fitted after 1963.

Possibly (but have no proof) coincided with move to Plumstead & change of colour scheme.

AJS-Matchless introduced black frames & metallic paint.

Seems logical that the wheel trims were added at the same time.

There were 2x fitted to front wheel (one each side) - PNo 23881

There was 1x fitted to the rear wheel of both Jubilee & Navigator - PNo 23925

It was fitted on the speedo drive side & called "Spoke flange styling rim"

Hi Andy - no problem about latecomer! I thought it was 61 but I bow to your far superior knowledge, seems these trims are rarer than rare so I’m going to try making them, that’ll be interesting but not an unusual situation with older fairly limited production bikes (aka Plumstead Jubilees).

Submitted by bruce_firth-clark on Wed, 13/11/2019

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Eureka - we’ll I think so.  Many many thanks to a forum NOC member who offered me his pair from an as yet to be rebuilt Jubilee - I was about to collect 4 laser cut blanks so I politely (I think) declined his VERY kind offer before I had a go at making them from SS.  At the same time, I checked ebay (as you do) as usual only to find a seller with a hub and one trim for sale (I’ve been looking for three years!) - long story short, I have one trim on the way to me at the moment.

In the meantime I had a go at making one of the blanks into a “formed” trim - I think I’ve succeeded.  Photos attached with comparison against an original rear chrome trim - mine not as “shiny” but I don’t think it’ll be noticed if I use it on the brake plate side!

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Submitted by dennis_thompson on Fri, 15/11/2019

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Nice job and they won't pit and peel like chrome ones.

I had a professional polish some stainless exhausts and they came up like chrome. If you have a buffing wheel and some graded abrasives it might be worth trying to polish them yourself.

Try it on some spare stainless first to get the compound right. I have used Solvol Autosol on a bench grinder buffing wheel with good effect but it is hard to clean the wheel afterwards until it wears off.

Dennis

Submitted by bruce_firth-clark on Sat, 16/11/2019

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Thanks - this has had an initial buffing(I use a wheel in a pillar drill) so just needs a little bit more work but it’s nearly there!  Just need the spokes (ordered) then ready to build both wheels.

 



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