My newly finished 1960 Dommie 99 has the standard front fork set up with 20 weight fork oil and original springs. I’m finding the front end very harsh when I ride as I only weigh just over 8 stones (52kg). The front end doesn’t compress very much, even on heavily rippled surfaces - it’s almost like riding a rigid forks bike.
I have the same problem with my classic Triumphs so I’m sure it’s not just a ‘Norton thing’.
The fork brace is a nice sliding fit between the fork sliders so I’m pretty sure it’s not causing the fork legs to bind up. Using a lighter fork oil doesn’t seem to make any difference either. Does anyone know if it’s possible to get softer springs for the Dommie? Perhaps springs from another model?
Any advice/suggestions gratefully accepted.
Thanks
Regards
Tony
Roadholders have always been…
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Old memories
Back in the sixties I had a1960 Dommie 99. At that time I had same weight as you, substantially more now. Bike stripped of all unnecessary parts. Alloy rims, mudguards and engine plates. Clipons etc. So it was much lighter than standard. Never had any feeling that suspension was stiff. Much softer than the old flathead rigid Harley I had before.
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Its probably the short…
Its probably the short suspension travel compared to a modern bike that you are noticing , The addition of effective bump stops may do the job.
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Never had that issue
But I put another 10 stone on the machine. The springs would be the right things to change for you but have you experimented with different weight/ volume of damping oil? Maybe a sluggish reaction to 20W or over volume?? My move would be to drain and go for a run to evaluate the ride then retry with differing oils.
Progressive springs were available back when, but I don't keep up with current product availability.
Cheers
Jon
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Softer Springing
Fitting softer springs to the forks will probably result in the mudguard jamming between the frame front down tubes.
Robert is possibly coming up with the right reasons for the harshness of the action, especially if there are a bundle of new parts inside the forks. I once purchased a fork refurbishment kit wearing the famous guaranteed quality green blob only to find the the bushes would not slide onto the stanchions.
Also check for twisted yokes, the wrong length wheel spindle and a bent stanchion. I use a modern 5W/60 synthetic oil in my forks which softens the action but does let them top out occasionally.
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Thanks everyone. Most of my…
Thanks everyone. Most of my fork parts are new: stanchions, one slider and both damper caps from AN, damper rods and bushes from Norvil. The springs and damper disks are the original 1960 items.
The fork legs have been lined up in the yokes so that the wheel spindle can be slid in and out with firm finger pressure.
If I hold the front brake on and push on the handlebars, the forks compress further than when I’m riding the bike.
I’ll try draining the oil out and see if that makes a difference.
Thanks again.
Regards
Tony
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hello i had similar ,when i…
hello
i had similar ,when i topped up the oil in the forks. with top nuts back on. i dropped the bike down off its stand. the front end felt to firm to press up and down . so sitting on the bike i undid the fork top nuts slightly, not all the way. just to let trapped air out. and the forks dropped slowly then stopped. i tightened the top nuts up. it seemed ok after that,
Barry
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I find my forks to be too…
I find my forks to be too stiff - going over bumps, it seems to stay fairly rigid. It's not stiction, I have tested for that and the fork action is fine. One thing that might need correction, my fork damper top caps were bushed a while back - the part was unobtainable at the time, so a local engineer used bronze. They are a fairly close sliding fit on the damper rods. Is that correct?
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Roadholders have always been a bit stiff. It is worth releasing the damper rods and checking the fork action for binding. I had to polish out some bruising on the staunchions to get mine to slide nicely. I also had to rotate the staunchions to find the sweet spot. I had to pack out the damper rods with washers to get the legs the same length to avoid a twisting effect on the axle. The axle needs to slide through the fork ends to find its position. I am using progressive springs and covenant damping mods plus longer bronze bushes to give a hydraulic bump stop at both ends of travel. Extra slippy 10/40 fully synth oil . Cant say I notice the fork action now , but it was not good before.