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Early Commando Front Isolastic Questions

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Hi,

69 Commando. Just stripped out the front isolastic mount

Have a few questions.
The inner buffers x2 are way too big for the 3/4 dia. inner spacer. I assume these are incorrect for the bike (picture)

Inner spacer tube:
To make sure I build up the isolastics correctly my inner spacer is  65mm long. is this correct? 
Also, do I need the spacer with grooves and circlips to keep the buffers correctly spaced?

Outer rubbers- any preference for makes? 
RGM do a Heavy Duty rubber kit- is it too harsh? I want to go for less vibes
They do a softer compound outer rubber that you fit to the inner bush which sounds like a bit of a faff. Any advice on these.

I could go to a vernier kit but as the mount is out I can shim and adjust to the 10 thou and save a few pennies. It dropped out in a few minutes with nothing seized. Any thoughts on shims V vernier?

Thanks
Eddie Cross

 

 

 

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Vernier type will give tens of thousands of miles use if adjusted correctly. The softer rubbers are the best according to many owners. 

One big mistake many make that are not used to the verniers is fitting them the correct way around. On the front adjuster is on the right, rear is on the left, get it wrong and it's all tears as most notice when the rear wheel does not align with the rear loop.

Next is the adjustment, tighten until there is no gap, some read this to tighten until it can't be tightened any further then turn back a hole and half, which still leaves no gap.

With the vernier, to replace the rear involves some deep dismantling or 'hinging' the bike. Thankfully most bikes will need a deep overhaul by the time they need replacing so not really much of an issue. 

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This job needs doing too often to want to faff around with shims — not so easy when the Isolastics are in place on a working bike. Also, you either need a stock of different sized shims, or face a wait while AN (or AN Other) supply the ones your measurements and calculations suggest are needed.

Note that the 0.010" clearance specified in the Workshop Manual can be treated as a maximum; subject to maintaining a minimum of 0.000", one can play around with the clearance to move around the rev range in which engine vibration is transmitted to the rest of the bike. This is cheaper and easier than experimenting with different compound rubbers.

On the question of your existing inner buffers, they should indeed incorporate free space BUT it should be between the buffers and the outer tube, not between the inner tube and the buffers. See the diagrams in AN's service notes available here: https://andover-norton.co.uk/en/techdb-category/8/frame-chassis.

I dare say the alternative arrangement might work OK, but since you have it apart you might as well ensure that it is as the designers intended. Given the front ones are as they are, what are the rear ones like?

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Another option I just noticed is the Mick Hemmings adjusters for the original rubbers.

Saw an earlier post that said someone was re-manufacturing them. Any leads appreciated.

Thanks

Eddie

 



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