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Norton Jubilee or Navigator ?

Submitted by patrick_mullen on Mon, 19/02/2018
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That didn't work. There is an odd Jubilee or Navigator for sale and it looks totally wrong. Described as a 350 but with Jubilee forks and missing about everything such as mudguards, badges and styling panels. It is a case of spotting the bits - the front forks/headlight seem to be the early 59/60 style but with the added chrome bits from the later forks. Alloy mudguards and Gold Star silencers but missing a chain guard. The front brake looks interesting - I have never seen a twin leading shoe one before on a Jubilee .Attachments
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Submitted by christopher_moore on Tue, 20/02/2018

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Despite the fact its not how it left the factory I quite like the look. I just hope that when I come to sell any of my machines they fetch equally good money.

Submitted by patrick_mullen on Tue, 20/02/2018

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Yes I got to agree with you. It probably costs more to restore a Jubilee to original than it does to restore a Commando as good parts are so difficult to obtain, yet it is worth very little. I was offered 1200 GBP at a local show for my very very nice original 1961 Navigator De Luxe. It still has good chrome original Dunlop wheels.

The machine on Ebay claimed to be a 1961 "350 Classic Norton " with "matching numbers" but it obviously is a complete mongrel as the forks are from an earlier Jubilee. But it does look good - a bit like a Commando. That's why people took the badges off the tank in the past.

Submitted by john_pullen-appleby on Sat, 24/02/2018

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Previously patrick_mullen wrote:

Yes I got to agree with you. It probably costs more to restore a Jubilee to original than it does to restore a Commando as good parts are so difficult to obtain, yet it is worth very little. I was offered 1200 GBP at a local show for my very very nice original 1961 Navigator De Luxe. It still has good chrome original Dunlop wheels.

The machine on Ebay claimed to be a 1961 "350 Classic Norton " with "matching numbers" but it obviously is a complete mongrel as the forks are from an earlier Jubilee. But it does look good - a bit like a Commando. That's why people took the badges off the tank in the past.

Hello all,

I like it as well--my own Navigator (which turned out to hve a jubilee frame and a BSA front end) will--whenever it gets put together (one bore is relined then the lathe broke--it should not be long now etc) will look like that. I plan some home made stainless silencers that look in that ilke (I have them on my other bikes).

I agree with Dan earlier on here--my agreed values are all too low. I am an all year rider with no driving license so other bikes needing attention and the bores matter have forced the Norton into the background. I don't want to know how much the building of it will have cost--lots--and I have to register it yet. I don't recognise the TLS brake--I thought it may be CZ but I'm not sure now.

Submitted by patrick_mullen on Mon, 26/02/2018

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Your public image was very important if you were a teenager around 1970! You didn't want the neighbours to know that it was only a 10 year old 250 bought for a fiver; so a few minutes with an aerosol and it looked a bit like a much newer 750. Well sort of.

I was too old (married with a son !) by then to do such things but I recall driving my old Mk1 MGB from Leeds to Coventry to fit a new set of the latest alloy wheels - wire wheels were so old-fashioned as the new Mk2 all had RO-Styles wheels.

Nothing changes. Look at the Mercedes driving in front of you; if it's has no badges on the boot you can be sure it's a 2 litre diesel and not an AMG C63S.

So the conclusion is Never buy a vehicle from an enthusiast if you rate originality higher than image .

Patrick

Submitted by julian_wells on Mon, 26/02/2018

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CZ was my first (and further) thought, but some quick Googling hasn't turned up confirmation.

Previously John Pullen-Appleby wrote:

I don't recognise the TLS brake--I thought it may be CZ but I'm not sure now.

 



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