Lifting handle

This should fit between the seat and the top of the de-luxe panel. Therefore there should be holes here for bolts. Attached is a picture from the Roy Bacon Twins resto book showing the location. Hopefully it helps a little. 

 a rare example of a functional accessory that helps the rider!

It was a std fitting on all the DL bikes. Same on the 88/99/650 .

Don't drill the panel .  Somethings wrong.   I will do some research.

Drop Andy an email, he’s sure to know? 

Dan

Thanks Dan... The details are in your RoadHolder

I do wish people would write to me. Its so much easier - & a chance of getting the right answer.

I do have a lot of the answers - but here on the forum, I can't keep up. I also find the forum clunky at best, and bl**dy horrid if I want to add pictures. Much prefer email....

John B - while I put some answers together for you - your first picture looks fine - thats the correct handle location.

However - your picture 2 is all wrong. Basically there is no full back mudguard fitted originally. What you did have was a 1/4 circle's worth of mudguard, from the swing arm up to the back of the tool box (where you created a mounting for your mudguard). You have the (correct?) loop and 'P' clip, however. They form the support for the rear of the 'tail' part of the full encosure.

Under the tail lamp fitting on the tail portion, and hidden by the number plate, is a recessed hole. That is where the frame loop is connected by the 'P' clip.

The whole thing was a poor design, as all the mud flung up by the back wheel adhered under the tail portion, and especially over the tail light - and like all car wings (esp. around the headlight ) of the period rotted out for a pastime. Nowadays, cars have plastic valances to keep mud away. What the Navi (& Jubilee) had was a hardboard valance under the seat to prevent mud coming forwards. There was another splash guard under the swing arm & behind the gearbox, to prevent mud being flung up onto the engine. Very few of these have survived, but I do have an example of each if anyone is interested.

More to follow.....

Heres a few pictures from "RoadTests Republished 1955-60".

You can see the lifting handle is positioned as you have it. Sadly, the r/hand bolt was fitted direct to the panel, with no strengthening underneath - so a lot of them tore out.

The left side is mounted to the main frame stud that passes right through the frame - its a strong mounting point - but the handle itself can bend at that point - esp if the other end lets go.

You can also see in one of the pictures, that under the 1959-only Wipac tail light is the fastener for the 'P' clip - that holds the frame loop.

Looking at your picture 2, with a full mudguard ,if you can make it work with the rear enclosure ,it has to be better than the  std detail.

Andy this is how you do it! 

Earlier in the thread John did say 'ignore picture two'.

Happy new year to you all, If you fit a long inner mud guard you will not be able to withdraw the rear wheel through the tail of the rear paneling when you remove the number plate, this is the reason for the short guard. You may be able to fit a slightly longer one but be careful of clearances. I would suggest a coat of car underseal might pay dividends.

all the best peter F.