I hope this does not turn out to be a leftover part but I am trying to find out where a washer goes. This washer fell off when the timing cover was removed on my 65 Atlas. It does not appear to show up on a parts diagram and will fit nicely over the shaft next to the oil pump and the intermediate shaft.
Would someone know where this washer goes?
Hi Jim, it sounds like you…
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Wishy Washer
I think Robert is correct. This looks like a bad replacement for the 0.10" ground thrust washer that sits behind the Intermediate Gear.
You need..........
THRUST WASHER (D12/939) or (T2080)
From Andover Norton it is listed as part-no: 06.7548
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Thanks to Phil for the …
Thanks to Phil for the correct technical information. Fraid I can't find anything these days. I also only know of these dastardly bodges as I have been guilty of most of them myself long ago. I think Jim would be well advised to keep a wary eye for the unexpected as he works his way round the machine.
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The Washer Size Is ...
The washer size is 1.065" OD X .575" ID X .060" THICK.
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Intermediate Shaft
It appears that since the intermediate shaft is grooved the gear slides or moves on the shaft some.
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The Washer
Robert, why are you say that there should not be a washer at the end of that shaft?
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No washer on the end of the…
No washer on the end of the crank where it goes into the timing cover. Also no washer on the end of the intermediate gear shaft where it goes into the timing cover.I can see that someone could think there could be a use for a washer in these situations ,but no , the only big washer used is behind the intermediate gear up against the crank case. Perhaps the previous owner was worried the gear /chain could wear the cover ? or that the cover oil seal would not stay in the cover? , Is this the charm of owning these old clunkers? lots of mysterious puzzles to ensure we don't have to watch Emmerdale or Coronation Street for entertainment?.
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Washering It
I have no way of verifying if the washer is there since it is assembled, the intermediate gear is not rubbing on the case, and it did run okay before I found the magneto to be bad. Any suggestions on how to remove the nut on the camshaft and crankshaft? I hear that damage can be done easily when removing these nuts. I do have the resources to make special tools if needed or will buy them if available.
Thanks for the replies.
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I have a cutaway cover that…
I have a cutaway cover that holds the shaft in position against the pull of the chain and is pretty essential to get the cam chain tension right , Norton stockists sell a bracket that does the same.The cam nut should not be very tight and usually a rap with a hammer on the spanner works. Engine is held in top gear with back brake on and all nuts loosened before a strip down.
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Inspections
The play in both Timing Chains will allow the Intermediate sprocket to be eased forward a few mm. Hold onto the spindle while pulling the sprocket or it may drop out of its housing. A torch, small mirror and angled probe (bent wire) will then allow investigation of the area behind the sprocket.
Don't touch the camshaft nut without using a spindle support of some kind. Remember that the crankshaft nut is a Left Hand Thread. If the pistons have been removed then a Tommy bar through the Conrod eyes plus a chunk of timber across the crankcase mouths will help with undoing the Crankshaft nut.
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Can That Washer Fall Out?
Is it possible for the washer behind the intermediate gear to fall out when the timing cover is removed?
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How Can One Tell
How can I tell if the if the intermediate spindle is loose in the crankcase?
It looks like the chains will need to come off first to remove the intermediate spindle.
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The spindle is usually a…
The spindle is usually a tight fit in the case and is not to be disturbed, however a few clumsy attempts to remove the cam nut means that many are loose. Does not cause a problem appart from the possibility that it will come out by accident when the cover is removed and can then allow the thrust washer to drop . A loose spindle may allow the chains to be removed a bit easier as normally it all has to come off together as you have found, Looking at your motor I would definately say the mangler has been in there before you.
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Hi Jim, it sounds like you are saying it will fit the crankshaft end, where there should NOT be any washer. Sometimes the removal of the cover pulls the intermediate gear spindle loose and the washer at the back of the gear can drop . Could this be a "replacement " for it that someone has unsucessfully tried to fiddle back in?, Could it be a shim that had been behind the ignition unit sprocket. and fell off un-noticed during earlier work?. If it indeed was on the crank end ! could it be a crude attempt to hold the cover seal in position ?. Looking at the engine I do see some evidence of crude bodges that tell a story of bad work. Also your oil pump seal looks sad.