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Say a new Commando owner was to put grease in the grease nipple of the swinging arm - would that owner then need to strip and clean out the swinging arm prior to using oil rather than grease?

All hypothetical you understand!

Thanks and regards - Paul.

PS - what diameter should the internal bore of the rocker feed pipes be?

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It would depend on what quanity and how thick the grease was. I would assume it would be the Lithium GP grease, which is quite soft. The correct grade thick oil, when pump in would tend to spread to the outer areas of the grease, and also gravitate downwards to the bottom. Over time it would probably mix into the grease to a large extent anyway. The way I see it is that the grease would simply decrease the capacity of the oil area in the short term and in the longer term after several re-topppings would gradually be diluted out by the new oil additions. So as long as you kept it topped up with oil, the grease would not cause a problem, especially as grease is also a lubricant too. I don't think having the two together would cause a lubrication problem. With just grease alone maybeit would.

With the Commando, are not the end plates with the nipple removeable?. I cannot remember.If so you easily scrape out the grease....IF NOT, you could try pumping in lots of hot thin engine type oil, which I would imagine could dissolve the grease and graduallyflushed it out under the gun pressure. All hypothetical of course!

Don't know the pipe size to hand.

Les

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CORRECTION>>> earlier entry is so bad I had to rewrite it, please delete 8.57 version..Promise not to do that again...Sorry NOC. Thanks. Les

It would depend on what quantity and how thick the grease was. Iâm assuming it would be the Lithium GP grease, which is quite soft. The correct grade oil, when pumped in, would tend to spread to the outer areas of the grease, and also gravitate downwards to the bottom. Over time it would probably mix into the grease to a large extent anyway. As I see it, the grease wouldinitially decrease the capacity of the oil volume and in the longer term, after several topping ups, would gradually be diluted by the new oil additions. So as long as you kept it topped up with oil, the grease would not cause a problem, especially as the grease is also a lubricant too. I don't think having the two together would cause a lubrication problem. With just grease alone maybeit would.

With the Commando, are not the end plates with the nipple removable? I cannot remember.If so, you easily scrape out the grease....IF NOT, you could try pumping in lots of hot thin engine type oil, which I would imagine would dissolve the grease and graduallyflush it out under the gun pressure. All hypothetical of course!

Don't know the pipe size to hand.

Les

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Les - thanks for that - I have removed the end cover from the RHS and cleared out the grease, then filled with oil. It seemed oil tight at the time, but after a ride today its clear its another source of oil to prevent corrosion on the cycle parts!

Regards - Paul.

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Previously wrote:

Les - thanks for that - I have removed the end cover from the RHS and cleared out the grease, then filled with oil. It seemed oil tight at the time, but after a ride today its clear its another source of oil to prevent corrosion on the cycle parts!

Regards - Paul.

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  • Les- My frame was painted and the swinging refitted by Norvil (aka Fairspares). Recently I fitted a grease gun to the right hand plate to inject the correct oil. As I gently pulled the gun away, the plate came away with the gun ! On closer inspection the plate had been stuck on, and the middle hole filled with sealant also because the bolt end had been snapped off ! Instead of just replacing this cheap part, they stuck it on (even though the engine was not in, so access was clear !). Now I have managed, luckily,to replace the bolt without removing the primary drive. However, I cannot keep the oil in. It leaks readily out off both sides. Anybody able to give me some advice or tips on this. I really do not want to strip the primary drive to solve this. This is just one of many examples of appalling workmanship and service that I received from Norvil. I will be happy to inform any members about others examples.
  • Julian.
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I've been told The trick is not to put too much oil in there.

The swing arm bushes are oilite, which is pourous and needs to absorb a little oil now and then for lubrication, but there shouldn't be much if any free oil in there - and if there is it will leak out.

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Previously wrote:

I've been told The trick is not to put too much oil in there.

The swing arm bushes are oilite, which is pourous and needs to absorb a little oil now and then for lubrication, but there shouldn't be much if any free oil in there - and if there is it will leak out.

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Previously wrote:

I've been told The trick is not to put too much oil in there.

The swing arm bushes are oilite, which is pourous and needs to absorb a little oil now and then for lubrication, but there shouldn't be much if any free oil in there - and if there is it will leak out.

Ok, but the Norton manual instructs us to fill all the chamber, and even remove the spindle lock bolt to see oil running out of it (every 5000 miles). Julian.

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Maybe you should pump some grease into it. Regards John.

John, Norton state that SAE 140 is correct. I feel grease will probably not reach all areas in need of lube.- and will clog the voids. Then sufficient pressure will be needed to inject more grease, and the 'o' ring seals will perhaps not hold.

Julian.

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Has anyone answered the oil pipe question ?

I would say that its the same as the size of the feed banjo and the double banjo's on the head. About 4mm.

 



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